On May 2, 2025, I joined Frank Jorge for an interview that was more than just media — it was a genuine conversation between two people who care deeply about liberty, culture, and the direction of this country.

Frank doesn’t pull punches. That’s one reason I agreed to join him. He asked the questions that matter — not the ones poll-tested for political safety. And what followed was an honest exchange of ideas about what’s going wrong, what’s still right, and what we can do about it.

We covered a lot of ground. From the erosion of truth in our institutions to the crisis of leadership in government. From the rise of centralized power to the silencing of people of faith and conviction. Frank and I both agreed: too many leaders are chasing comfort, not truth. Convenience, not courage.

I told him what I’ve told voters across Wyoming: this campaign isn’t about tweaking the system — it’s about dismantling what’s broken and rebuilding it around the people.

We spoke about Faith, Family, Freedom, and the Future — the four pillars of this campaign. I laid out how faith gives us clarity. Family gives us strength. Freedom gives us space to grow. And the future demands boldness, not compromise.

One thing that really resonated was our discussion on how politics has become entertainment for some — and a weapon for others. But what it’s not doing is solving problems. And that’s what I’m running to fix.

I shared my conviction that if we don’t return to our roots — as a state and as a nation — we’ll lose what made this country worth preserving. That includes restoring education to families, defending the unborn, protecting property rights, and telling the truth — even when it’s unpopular.

Frank asked how I’d handle pressure — how I’d hold my ground. I told him the same thing I told my kids: if you know what’s right, you don’t back down. You pray. You act. You lead.